Hi Everyone!

[Jester]

EXCEPT SANE PEOPLE!

[snakefactory]

It seems as though my experiment has failed.

[Jester]

What did this experiment include?

Did you buy pants at Starbucks?

[snakefactory]

This trolling experiment.. people did not react as viscerally as I had hoped.

I will continue my quest.

[Jessica]

This trolling experiment.. people did not react as viscerally as I had hoped.

I will continue my quest.

Doing it for the lulz?

[garbaggio]

I try to avoid visceral reactions to hearing about people buying pants and drinking coffee.

Taha

[5000 Years Old Man]

It seems as though my experiment has failed.

experiments don't fail -- they might produce results other than the expected; but that is progress, not failure [Image: http://www.i2clipart.com/cliparts/d/2/f/...n-d2f6.png]

[snakefactory]

You are an inspiration, Gid.. I will persevere.

[garbaggio]

I'm bored. Someone say something. Does anyone have any thoughts about anything going on in the world? What do you think of the new Pope? Should the Federal reserve taper its bond buying? What the economy of the future will look like? Would you be one of the first 10 people to live on Mars if it meant you could only live 10 more years? What do you think of Larry Summers' secular stagnation theory? Do you hate upworthy as much as I do? Should Apple do share buybacks or should they start new product lines? Do you think the Eurozone can survive in its current incarnation?

Taha

[foosboss]

How about the major television deal that Rogers (Sportsnet) signed with the NHL? $5.2 Billion I believe?

Starting next year, no more NHL hockey on TSN.
CBC will have HNIC for another 4 years but will not benefit from advertising money.
TVA will have the french rights as opposed to RDS.
TVA is also actively involved in bringing hockey back to Quebec city. This will majorly boost their chances since they want to increase their Canadian hockey audience.

[5barwarrior]

I won't live on Mars. It would be amazing to see but once the novelty wears off, nothing to do.
Speaking of which, I would like to build a space ship that will travel close to the speed of light, take a trip and come back. That way I can skip forward a couple hundred years and see what cool things are going on.

[Jester]

How about the major television deal that Rogers (Sportsnet) signed with the NHL? $5.2 Billion I believe?

Starting next year, no more NHL hockey on TSN.
CBC will have HNIC for another 4 years but will not benefit from advertising money.
TVA will have the french rights as opposed to RDS.
TVA is also actively involved in bringing hockey back to Quebec city. This will majorly boost their chances since they want to increase their Canadian hockey audience.

Not a big fan of this move at all. Rogers fucking blows, and they, along with Bell are able to just force feed us their shit product because the monopoly they share. They have got more money then they know what to do with because they overcharge Canadians on TV, Cell Phone and the Internet services that have been compared to the services provided in 3rd world countries (Netflix CEO compared the ratio of internet quality and what we pay to others and we were very low). HNIC is hands down the most well produced hockey show in the world, its a real shame their power will diminish.

Money talks, Rogers, Bell, Bettman, they can all fuck off, self interested bastards that are just exploiting the essence of Canadian sport for max profits. All 3 have shareholders, so all three are responsible to them first and foremost. They will do whatever makes the shareholders more money, not what is best for hockey.

It looks like the CRTC is already considering jumping in on this, which would be great. So lets hope for that.

[deliverance]

Not a fan because you view it as black and white?

The internet / service problems that Netflix put out there isn't a fair basis, the ends don't justify the means and it's not that simple. Consider the cost of rolling out equipment versus population per square foot across Canada. It's going to take a damn long time to extend coverage to everyone while also keeping profits in mind. 20 years ago we were the first and one of the fastest adopters of DSL in Ottawa because of Nortel's influence. Can't just replace infrastructure that fast ... who's gonna pay for that? The consumer? well you don't want that. The shareholder? Well he doesn't want that. You're both not wrong.

The gold standard for Internet is South Korea + Europe. Korea is 3rd in the world in terms of population density, whereas United States rounds out at 179, above Canada at 228, good for 15th worst country in the world.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sov...on_density



Now back to Hockey:
Did you read the same press release we did?

- No more local blackouts (which was a PPV money grab for game center, etc. and you couldn't purchase that and have it benefit your local team)
- Wednesday / Sat / Sunday we get guaranteed coverage of any Canadian hockey team regardless of our region (how many times have you not been able to catch a game because CBC decided to black it out in favor of the center of the universe).
- They are allowing CBC to keep Hockey Night in Canada for the next 4 years and put it on their network, Rogers just gets to choose who their panel and what the editorials are.
- Rogers will pay for the broadcasting fees out of CBC's booths/panel (which means that most of the production is still CBC Rogers just gonna be approving it)
- CBC will always keep the cup finals
- If any team is Canadian and in the finals, Rogers can now also broadcast this not only on CBC but on all it's other sports related stations == more viewership.
- 50% of the profits from this deal also go to the players = less burden on the owners = more profit sharing for every team (even teams in struggling markets).

Source: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=693152

[5000 Years Old Man]

...
The gold standard for Internet is South Korea + Europe. Korea is 3rd in the world in terms of population density, whereas United States rounds out at 179, above Canada at 228, good for 15th worst country in the world.
...

maybe we should over-populate North America too

[SilentSam]

Not a fan because you view it as black and white?

The internet / service problems that Netflix put out there isn't a fair basis, the ends don't justify the means and it's not that simple. Consider the cost of rolling out equipment versus population per square foot across Canada. It's going to take a damn long time to extend coverage to everyone while also keeping profits in mind. 20 years ago we were the first and one of the fastest adopters of DSL in Ottawa because of Nortel's influence. Can't just replace infrastructure that fast ... who's gonna pay for that? The consumer? well you don't want that. The shareholder? Well he doesn't want that. You're both not wrong.

The gold standard for Internet is South Korea + Europe. Korea is 3rd in the world in terms of population density, whereas United States rounds out at 179, above Canada at 228, good for 15th worst country in the world.

That's a shitty way to look at it.

A lot of the infrastructure is already in place, and the major Canadian Telco's are hoarding it like being De Boer's is in style or something. That plus the fact that they are constantly attempting to block external parties from coming in, buying infrastructure, and giving competitive prices... well, that's clearly the icing on the cake for me.

Yes, we're less dense in Canada (you see what I did there?) but at the same time the prices should reflect the population density in our metropolitan areas if they want to pull that card. OK, so this statement is not really realistic in Canada, but my main point is that the infrastructure rollout has mostly happened, and unless the major Telcos and ISPs have massive debt and/or deficit, they have no gripe.

Wind manages to make my cell phone cheap, and TekSavvy makes my internet cheap all while renting Rogers' lines.