Tornado Ramps - Coming to a table near you.

[garbaggio]

Use one hand for both the goalie and the 2-bar, and your right hand on the 5. Equally as effective, if not more-so.

There's too much lateral space on the 2-bar to enable you to get to get to every position in a reasonable time.

Hello, straw-man argument. Care to address the real pros of this change?

You piss off North Americans, your established base, in order to appease European soccer purists. I wonder how many people would take Tornado up because of this change versus how many players already playing Tornado would stop because of it. Do you think it's a net positive?

Balls coming off the back well are less predictable and more erratic, leading to as many slop goals as went in off the extra men. So ramps increase off-the-ramp slop while eliminating the off-the-men slop, so that part is equivalent.

I fail to see how balls of the back wall are "less predictable" than they are now. The ramps are less than a 10 degree incline - and they're not marred with potholes and random bumps.

They are less predictable because the ball comes in at different speeds and because of backspin. I saw this with the Warrior Table. Because the ball was so grippy and backspins so much, shots that hit the ramp/back wall at different speeds would rebound and hit the back of the men on the 2-bar because of angle changes and go in (especially in singles), or sometimes would jump up and land RIGHT ON the 3-bar, which is just ridiculous.

Taha