Spring League Schedule

[garbaggio]

Merv and the 2 young guns? That sounds like fun. Me and Mario and whom?

Taha

[Jester]

I would love that. My game and goals within my game I feel are very close to yours Taha so playing with/against you helps me out a bunch. Maybe next season you could team up with Dan and I.

[SilentSam]

Merv and the 2 young guns? That sounds like fun. Me and Mario and whom?

Taha

It's normally Marc, but I think he's the one that's out. Maybe Corey?

[5barwarrior]

I don't know, they haven't paid their 3 person spot yet @:

[Jester]

Sorry but im out for today. I went to the hospital yesterday because of intense lower back pain which continually built up since Monday afternoon. Didn't get any better with sleep last night. Doctor did nothing, basically told me to pound tylenol and rest until it goes away but no xrays or ct scans were done, if it doesn't get better by tomorrow or friday im going back in because I think I might have this:

Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm
An abdominal aortic aneurysm represents an enlargement of the abdominal aorta – the main artery running through the abdomen.
In the elderly population, abdominal aortic aneurysms are not uncommon and are rarely symptomatic. Abdominal aneurysms are most common among people over age 60, and are more prevalent among men and those who smoke.
Abdomimal Aortic Aneurysm Symptoms
While most abdominal aortic aneurysms are relatively small and asymptomatic, if the enlarged blood vessel begins to leak blood, or if it ruptures, it can cause severe, unremitting abdominal and lower back pain and represents a medical emergency.
Sudden onset of severe lower back pain is a prominent symptom of an abdominal aneurysm that has ruptured.
Typical symptoms can include:
• Acute, sudden onset of back pain
• Low back pain that is severe. Some patients describe being doubled over in pain.
• Severe abdominal pain
• Pain that is continuous and does not feel better with rest
• Pain that may radiate into the groin or leg
• Pain may be accompanied by symptoms of internal bleeding, such as nausea, vomiting, rapid heart rate, cool or clammy skin, sweating, and/or shortness of breath.

[SilentSam]

That sounds like an extreme case. While I'm not saying that you definitely don't have that condition, it seems highly unlikely for anyone in their 20s to experience any sort of aneurysm. The majority of debilitating back pain is actually caused by a pulled muscle in the lower back, and the pain really is crippling. Hopefully you haven't herniated a disc, which usually is the second most common cause of back pain.

[5barwarrior]

Rest up.

You sure the back pain isn't from carrying Packer and Merv last week?

[Jester]

lol, yeah I know its extreme Dan but I have never experienced this kind of pain in my life and after looking over all the different types that one seems to be the most relevant, I just took note that its more common in men and smokers, but I agree its probably not that, lets just hope

[SilentSam]

Back injuries are never fun. Take the time to heal up properly.

[5000 Years Old Man]

Greetings from the eminent lower back pain connoisseur – over 40 years of intensive experience and still counting.

The lower back has been a vulnerable spot for mankind since we stood up on our hind legs. Especially for those of us that use their back vigorously and intend to continue to do so, back problems are a fact of life. Ironically, out of shape lifestyles also put humanity at risk. Sitting, standing, and such habits over time can be as detrimental as the wear and tear of very physical activities. So, what to do? Everything in moderation, don’t overdo it, and when you do then deal with the consequences.

Not to worry though, at least not yet: most back problems heal by themselves regardless of the treatment applied. From chiropractors to acupuncture to spinal decompression to black magic, that’s why so many quacks are successful and remain in business.

Here below are conditions in ever-increasing degree of severity. Not to worry, first/early occurrences of lower back problems usually apply to the first three.

- If it is a pulled/stretched muscle it is the least worrisome condition: a lot of laying down, resting for a couple days, then cautious, gentle, progressing stretching and careful exercising lead you out of it.
- If it is a pulled/stretched ligament the condition is a grade up, but the same applies except more so.
- If muscles and/or ligaments are torn everything is cranked up a notch or two, including the way to handle it that is however pretty much the same.

For any of the above, painkillers are just that, and pain is there for a purpose so suppressing it for its own sake is logical only when our body response to pain can cause even more problems – as when muscle spasms intervene, forcing one to bend forward and putting even more stress on that delicate spot. Such being the case, medications for muscle spasms are usually indicated.

With age and/or use/misuse spinal discs lose elasticity and resilince. The spine might sag, bone might grind on bone. For a “slipped” and otherwise wrongly or rightly labeled out-of-order disc then the problem graduates some more. Again, going from bad to worse, in stages:

- A protruding disc has its soft content pushing to get out but is still intact.

- An herniated disc is a protruding disc that has ruptured; that is, there is a tear on its outer ring and its softer content has squished out - not a medical term. Inflammation of tissues and bone usually follow, and for that anti-inflammation medications are a good idea. If given a chance, herniated discs in most cases heal in weeks. If the same conditions persist they will herniate again.

- An herniated disc (and possibly just a protruding disc) that pushes against nerves causes further damage.

In my case the back problem reached these stages long ago, pushing 40. Besides the various back symptoms my right leg lost all feelings and functions; that lasted for weeks. The same condition re-visited me a number of times during the next 30 years, with one odd occurrence affecting the left rather than the right leg (maybe a different vertreba?), and the worst being four years ago when for more than five months I could get around only on crutches. My right soccer leg lost considerable muscle mass and is now weaker than the left.

Yes it’s all my fault: I felt it coming and pigheadedly kept going; dummy dummy dummy. A bit of rest at the right time followed by diligent stretching and progressive exercising would have avoided the whole thing.

Disclaimer: The above reflect one’s lengthy experience with back problems of various nature, and contains no stated nor implied guarantees. It is however a true rendition of accumulated personal experiences and observations.

[garbaggio]

I've had a lower back injury off and on for 2 1/2 years. It doesn't sound like what you have. With a back injury you're not doubled up in pain. You're laid out on your back and you can't move because your muscles are stiff and bunched up. Moving your upper body or your legs results in sharp pain your lower back. It's usually caused by a disc problem, but the effects you notice are all muscular.

Edit: I can't match Gid's 40 years of experience, so you should probably listen to him.

[5000 Years Old Man]

not all back injuries are created the same

of the symptoms that Jester highlighted the only one I did not experience is the shorthness of breath -- which could have derived from anxiety

of other possible, luckily I never experienced loss of control of bowel movement as yet

edit: consider all information, consider all sources, don't just listen

[5barwarrior]

I still believe it is "carrypartneritous"

[shadi]

I've had lower back pain for the past few years. What I have is a (usually) mild case of sciatica. The pain will start in the lowest part of the lumbar when the sciatic nerve gets pinched. At it's worst, the pain will travel down the back of my leg, through the hamstring and into my calf. When that happens, standing or sitting is nearly impossible without suffering terrible pain.

Over the years I've learned how to deal with it -- mostly by stretching and resting. Pain killers do nothing for this type of back pain.

[Jester]

Thanks for the help, yeah it was agonizing so I may have jumped to conclusions but it was also on a specific side of my back (left). The doctor assured me it had nothing to do with a disc or my spine, which is good, but I will have to just start taking better care of myself and working out I believe.